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The Westmar Sun
 

These are excerpts from the discontinued Web site / March 15-31, 2005
Westside Villagers plan educational campaign for separation from Mar Vista

' . . . we cannot totally ignore the Westside Village issue'
Tom Ponton

Boundary issues will always be contentious
Ken Alpern

Westside Villagers plan an educational campaign on the 'secession' issue
The closest vote in the referenda was that to allow Zone 1 (Westside Village) to get out of the Mar Vista Community Council and join with Palms on the other side of the 405.

It squeaked by with only four votes to spare — 124 to 116. Ninety-one voters didn't care one way or another.

Westside Villagers Richard Leib and George Garrigues, whom an MVCC Director once called an "Army of Two," and who have formed a grass-roots group called S-U-P-E-R (Strong and United to Protect Everyone's Rights), issued the following statement about the survey result:

To all that have supported us:

We would like to thank everyone for coming out and supporting the S-U-P-E-R group. This just lets everyone know where the community stands on having Westside Village become a part the Palms Neighborhood Council — where we belong.

Now we must set up a forum for the community of Westside Village to meet and formally discuss joining the Palms Neighborhood Council.

We will let you know about petitioning the Board of Neighborhood Commissioners (BONC) and the Department Of Neighborhood Empowerment (DONE) so we can move further with our cause for the neighborhood.

It was a close vote, and that does not surprise us. Many people do not know the facts (hopefully, before it is all over people will understand all the facts about why this move should take place).

We will be in touch.

Thanks again.

TOM PONTON
'Straw vote' on Westside Village served to bring the matter to the public's attention

To all of our loyal Stakeholders in Westside Village:

The results of the straw poll taken at our MVCC election have now been completed.

Probably the most inconclusive results pertained to Question 8. I understand many of you are deeply concerned about this issue, and I wish to apologize now, if the inclusion of this question has caused you any pain.

The MVCC Board has made it clear from the beginning that this was an exercise in building Stakeholder awareness of the many issues facing our community — and an attempt to get people out to vote. It was never considered binding on the Board to take any action, and that was always stated publicly and in print.

Six of the questions which we threw out had never even been discussed at our meetings, and at least four questions were very specific to certain zones.

We had intended to ask each voter to identify their zone when they voted, in order to understand how the people most impacted by those issues felt.

Quite by mistake, the question asking for the voter's zone number was omitted, which invalidates our ability to give much credibility to those zone-specific questions such as No. 8.

Nevertheless, we succeeded in raising awareness, and we have opened doors to new dialog, which can lead to more meaningful discussions involving Stakeholders who may not have otherwise participated. That is our strongest mission in these early days of trying to instill grass roots participation in neighborhood councils.

With regards to the Zone 1 specific question, I was very interested to read George Garrigues's take on the results, which of course have already appeared on The Westmar Sun Web site.

[The Sun] says, "The closest vote in the referenda was that to allow Zone 1 (Westside Village) to get out of the Mar Vista Community Council and join with Palms on the other side of the 405. . . . It squeaked by with only four votes to spare — 124 to 116. Ninety-one voters didn't care one way or another."

"It was a close vote, and that does not surprise us. Many people do not know that facts. . . ."

How true.

And even George has ignored one very important fac: Any decision should be made only by Zone 1 Stakeholders. And many things would need to occur before that can happen, and before any neighborhood council boundary changes could even be considered.

The City of L.A. requires that both neighborhood councils impacted must request that the city make a border change. The MVCC will not request a change without an intense outreach effort in Zone 1, followed by a fair vote of Stakeholders in Zone 1 — only Zone 1, and all of Zone 1!

And that's only half of the official LA city DONE [Department of Neighborhood Empowerment] procedure. The other half is that the ELECTED Board of the Palms Neighborhood Council would also have to make exactly the same request.

Don't hold your breath for that: It will be a number of months before Palms even has an election to create a board.

In fact, other options have not even been discussed, such as creating a subdivision of Zone 1.

The only thing we may have learned from the straw vote on Question 8 is that we can not totally ignore the Westside Village issue — that we need to come up with a long-range, fair plan, for Zone 1 to eventually revisit the self-determination of its neighborhood council destiny.

[Graphic is from the MVCC Web site.]

Tom Ponton is the Chair of the Mar Vista Community Council.
KEN ALPERN
Boundary issues will always be contentious

The accidental deletion of the zone specification on the survey was clearly unintended, and perhaps what happens when a very good idea (the survey) is done in a very short period of time (two weeks).
 
I anticipate that at the next MVCC Board meeting, when we vote on my proposed motion under New Business to maintain our current MVCC boundaries, we will give the WVCA, Mr. Garrigues, and all Westside Villagers a

definitive answer on how the MVCC Board declares its current position to DONE and to the City on this contentious issue.
 
Whether it is the Walgrove neighborhood at the border of Venice N.C., Zone 5 at the border of Del Rey N.C., or Westside Village at the border of Palms N.C., boundary issues will always be contentious and I look forward to a consolidation of the MVCC Board position at our next Board meeting. 
Ken Alpern is a director of both the Mar Vista CommunityCouncil and the Westside Village homeowners organization.