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Correspondence to and from public officials like President Bush, Mayor Villaraigosa, City Council members and people serving on the governing boards of neighborhood councils are considered public records and may be posted in full or in part if the editor feels like it.

This goes also for people asking for donations or grants from the public or who have sought or received public funds, like school-booster organizations (PTSA and FOP), the Westside Village Civic Assn. and others.

Sound walls are needed on the Rosa Parks Freeway
Steven D. Klein

Renaming of local branch library for Ray Bradbury is long overdue
Jonathan Weiss

Recipients decry Neighborhood Council's Spanish-language e-mails
Tom Ryan and Tom Hickey

What's so wonderful about not speaking Spanish?
Peter McFerrin

English-speaking culture is being replaced
Tom Ryan

Can't understand Rosendahl's appointment of a Mar Vistan
to neighborhoods study commission
Bea Steelman

Mail was not collected from an apartment letterbox
Name withheld

Much praise for a good Italian restaurant in our community
Jonathan Hopkins

Motor Ave. setback issues go way back — more than 70 years back
Jonathan Weiss

Headline was divisive and inappropriate
Jim Everett

Reporter of crime gets the runaround
Melo

Did Queensland Manor thieves steal a washer for the coins?
Pat Stoffel

Billboards on Motor Ave. are just plain tacky
Evelyn Penna

How can we get a speed hump on our street?
James (Yadu) Ordonez

Buds are budding on new Palms Blvd. trees
Lisa Cahill

SOUND WALLS NEEDED ON THE ROSA PARKS FREEWAY

. . . I also would like to see sound walls erected on OUR side of the 10, and not just the side on wealthy Cheviot Hills Homeowners' side. I have nothing against their getting a wall, just that we should have one, too. There are more people closer to the 10 on the Palms side than the Cheviot Hills side.

STEVEN D. KLEIN
June 25, 2006

[Editor's note: The original was sent to the Palms Neighborhood Council. This is a public record.]

LIBRARY RENAMING FOR RAY BRADBURY IS LONG OVERDUE

I read with dismay the article in the Palms Village Sun reporting yet another impediment to renaming the Palms-Rancho Park library in honor of Ray Bradbury.  Mr. Bradbury is a longtime Cheviot Hills resident, Los Angeles booster and, of course, a national treasure and literary light; such renaming is long overdue.
 
At the upcoming board meeting of the Cheviot Hills Homeowners’ Assn., I will move that the association support such a renaming.

JONATHAN WEISS
June 20, 2006

[Editor's note: This is a copy of a letter sent to Richard Harmetz of the Westside Neighborhood Council. Weiss is the secretary of the Cheviot Hills HOA.]

RECIPIENTS DECRY SPANISH-LANGUAGE E-MAILS

[Editor's note: The Palms Neighborhood Council sent two e-mails recently to its mailing list.

[One, Spanish-language publicity for the recent Council election, is at the top; it urges recipients to not forget to vote for their officlals on Sunday, May 21.

[The other, an announcement of a committee meeting, is at the bottom; its text, translated to English, states "If you need interpretation services, please notify the office 3 days (72 hours) before the event. If you need assistance with this notice, please call our office at (213) 485-1360).

[The Council received the following two responses, which are public records.]

Dear Secretary,
 
Please DO NOT send me Spanish correspondence.  It is a shame that we have to accommodate these lazy latinos who refuse to learn English and I find it offensive that their language is forced upon me.  It is blatant irredentism and wrong to promote their language.  This is the United States of America and English is the official national language.  It is a waste of public resources to continue to accommodate people who refuse to assimulate and learn the language of the country they have relocated.
 
Why are we wasting our time and resources publishing Spanish versions of everything.  These people need to learn English like the rest of the world who moves here. Why do the Asian, Middle Eastern, European people all learn English and yet these Latinos do not?  It's not fair to those cultures to have Spanish correspondence and not theirs — where/when does it stop?!

TOM RYAN
May 19, 2006

Please DO NOT SEND me Spanish correspondence.  I do NOT speak Spanish and find it offensive to have it shoved upon me.  This is the USA...Our national language is ENGLISH>
 
THANK YOU!

TOM HICKEY
May 22, 2006

WHAT'S SO WONDERFUL ABOUT NOT SPEAKING SPANISH?

The two yokels (don't be fooled by the use of "irredentism," a five-dollar word probably learned from Lou Dobbs) who wrote in complaining about receiving Spanish-language election materials were in error on a number of assertions, and Sun readers should be alerted to these.

For starters, while English was recently declared the "national language" by the Senate, it is not the "official language" by any stretch of the imagination — never has been, never will be.

The recently passed bill has absolutely no impact on voting, in particular: Local election boards are still required by the Voting Rights Act to provide election materials in whatever language in which a citizen feels most comfortable. For what it's worth, campaign and election materials were commonly distributed in Yiddish, Italian, Serbo-Croatian, Polish, and Greek in immigrant-heavy cities like Chicago and New York throughout the first quarter of the 20th century.

As for Mr. Ryan's assertion that Europeans, Middle Easterners, and Asians try to learn English, and Latinos don't: horse-apples!

Ever been to Westminster? Wilshire Center? San Gabriel? Glendale? Artesia? West Hollywood? There are plenty of immigrants of all ages — from Vietnam, Korea, China, Armenia, Pakistan, and Russia respectively — in those places who are U.S. citizens who either don't know any English or aren't sufficiently comfortable in it to follow political arguments. Should citizens of those ethnicities in those places be denied the right to vote just because they don't speak English as well as someone with a Nordic or Celtic last name?

If Los Angeles County can print voting instructions in Chinese, Korean, Tagalog, Armenian, and Vietnamese, and the City of Los Angeles can have street signs in Chinese and Korean, the Palms Neighborhood Council should be able to print election materials in Spanish.

One last thing: I find it difficult to believe that anyone in Los Angeles today would actually be proud and defiant about not speaking Spanish — or any other foreign language, for that matter — but I guess there are still an awful lot of redneck holdouts from the days of Poulson and Yorty. Shouldn't you guys have moved to Denver or Phoenix by now, like the rest of your ilk?

PETER MCFERRIN
May 30, 2006

P.S. I moved to Mar Vista a few months back so I could rent a single-family house (over by Venice High School, almost in Venice itself), but I still do an awful lot of eating and hanging out in Palms. Thanks for your continued hard work with The Sun, Mr. Garrigues.

ENGLISH-SPEAKING CULTURE IS BEING REPLACED

I wrote a reply to the [Palms Neighborhood Council] secretary regarding not wanting to receive Spanish-language e-mails.  It was to your secretary for an administrative request, and was not supposed to be published, but you published it anyway. The reply was to the e-mail you sent out, not fodder for the paper, but I'm learning that this is not a fair place to be.   Of course I believe you get a charge out of stirring up the pot — so be it.  The letter was to the secretary not for the paper — anyway what is done is done.

I must reply to that ignorant liberal Peter McFerrin who felt it was his duty to alert Sun Readers about the errors of my assertions.  . . .  
 
First of all — ENGLISH is the national and official language of the United States. — period.  It is what is recognized and stated as our national language — officially stated by the Senate and the government.  Whatever you consider official is your opinion, but it is what it is — our national language and coming from the Senate, President , etc., it is official.  Get over it. — move on. Oh, and by the way, never say never — in regards to "never will be the official language." 
 
Second, the Asians, Middle Eastern and other European people DO Speak English, maybe not so good, but they work hard to learn it, speak it and use it.  You are dead wrong — they do make the most sincere efforts, unlike many Latinos who refuse to even try.  Don't go there, as there is no comparison. 

Many Latinos are lazy when it comes to learning English (don't misquote or interpret this any other way — we're on the language debate), and they don't want to learn English. They've gotten away with it for years because of liberals like you and now by virture of the strength in their numbers are making sure we are going to speak THEIR language.That is no error or any assertion, it is blatant irredentism!
 
While Koreatown has Korean signs, 90 percent of the time there is some kind of an English translation on their signs.  Also, Peter, go in to one of their businesses and they will speak English if you do. This applies to the other areas you referenced.  Go into a Latin area, and you are lucky if you can get a yes or no in English.  They don't care because they know no one will put their foot down and say, "Enough! You must learn English!"
 
Irredentism is not a five-dollar word nor is it something to laugh, at you fool. I didn't get it from Lou Dobbs either.  Funny, though, I looked him up, and many of the things he speaks about are true.  The outsourcing of US jobs has bitten us badly on the ass as a country.  But liberals and greedy corporations have defended this, and what has it done for the USA — weakened our economy further!  God forbid anyone stand up to you liberals and disagree with your wishy-washy views. Irredentism IS exactly what is happening, and it is a serious problem.

The English-speaking culture is in fact being replaced by the Spanish-apeaking culture, especially here in Los Angeles. The Latinos refuse to learn English so they are accommodated, and now they are so accommodated that English-speaking people are inconvenienced wading through voice prompts, literature, instructions, advertisements, signs, political messages — to the point that we, I, feel offended, outraged and pushed out.

I have that right to speak out, and don't tell me I'm in error or anything less of a human being because of this situation.
 
Quit hiding behind insults about being a yokel or redneck — English-speaking people are losing their identities and being forced to read, speak and conduct commerce in Spanish.

We are a melting pot precisely.  Every immigrant in the past kept their traditions, but learned one unified language — English.   Calling me or anyone else a redneck because we want our national language spoken in commerce and political elections is nothing short of being so ignorant and blind to the real issues.  It is in fact proper, consistent and respectful to learn and speak the national language of the land you are living in.. Immigrants come here to have a better life, not make us live their lives and speak their languages from the countries they leave behind.